CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. Its way down on the bottom. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: No. Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? Same with the two sexual assaults; I have an arrest date of December 1971, but as for the date of the crimes or whether he was arrested for both at the same time (which I assume to be the case) is unclear. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. Every time it was in my face. Glenn Flothe, AST. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Darla eventually obtained a teaching job in Russia, and as far as I can tell she remains there today: the kids made lives for themselves somewhere in the American Midwest. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. Others have never been found. CINDY: Um hmm. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. Your email address will not be published. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. CINDY: Yes, directly. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? And hes short. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. CINDY: The Buick Century. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. CINDY: They look the same. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. Cindy coughs.) Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: Uh huh. When will it be released? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. What was your reaction when you first read the script? Im not going to help you do that, all right? Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. 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If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. He never learned her real name, he said. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: Um hmm You know, like mine is. FLOTHE: Either he had opened it or it was already open? On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! And he had called me and I slept through it. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Thats it. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. It was a red scar Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! FLOTHE: The same person. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. Her name is Cindy Paulson. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? I mean RH: Yes. * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. CINDY: Nope. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. CINDY: No. As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. CINDY: Sunday. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. CINDY: On. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. All rights reserved. But then, after that, I could not get over the fact of how amazing this character was and how I had to be a part of it. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! We just want her to be identified.'. How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? Apparently youre bothered by this? And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. He was right to worry, state officials later said. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. Glenn Flothe. Feb 12, 2023. I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. CINDY: Yep. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. It was smooth. Hudgens: It was so helpful. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. We are all the same. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. CINDY: He approached me. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. The others were never located. Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. CINDY: I dont think so. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. No problem. CINDY: No. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? It was plain. CINDY: Uh huh. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. People either loved it or they hated it. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. FLOTHE: You drove past the house? Interesting stuff. He seemed really like a pretty good guy. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. Your email address will not be published. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? So its early in the morning (inaudible) 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. FLOTHE: OK. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. We all have the same needs. It had never crossed her mind. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. CINDY: Yep. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson And he had called me and I slept through it. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. CINDY: Same. FLOTHE: In your face? And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. FLOTHE: Really dark color. CINDY: Uh huh. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? FLOTHE: OK. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! There was a bullet hole in the floor. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? Time is 8:15. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? CINDY: Some times they were. CINDY: Well, I didnt. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. There. Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. Hes got like frog warts on his face. OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. This is Sunday night or early Monday morning? FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? CINDY: He just drove by. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. I always wanted to do dramas. FLOTHE: Thank you. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. FLOTHE: Hairstyle? It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. FLOTHE: Ah. (inaudible). This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. CINDY: Uh huh. How fitting! Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. Hansen owned a bakery in a downtown mini mall and lived across town with his wife and children, who knew nothing of his double life. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. It turned into a cat and mouse chase. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. Flothe said. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Like a station wagon. And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. CINDY: It was a really dark color. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. 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